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    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    It shortens the time of reactions and helps eliminate symptoms

    Ok, so I've written in the blog about how I found that taking a spoonful of baking soda (also known as sodium mbicarbonate) in water really helps to minimize or shorten my reactions and I thought some of you might want to know some of the research or information behind that. So, here's some of what I found...
    Sodium Bicarbonate is an antacid - "it neutralizes stomach acid by combining with it to form a new substance that is not an acid."
    Salicylate - also known as salicylic acid - is an acidic chemical and there for sodium bicarbonate or other antacid compounds are useful in eliminating acidic chemicals like salicylates from one's system.
    Antacids, like baking soda, increase the pH level in a persons urine. This traps acids like salicylate in the urine, thus increasing the rate of elimination.
    Hospitals use sodium bicarbonate in cases of severe asprin overdoses as a way of eliminating the harmful salicylic acid from the system more quickly.

    Hope this helps.

    Health to you and yours -
    Beth
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    It works as a great toothpaste

    I stopped using toothpaste because I reacted so much to it so now I just brush my teeth with baking soda. I actually think that my teeth have never been whiter and I at least so far I haven't had a cavity yet so it seems to be working great! It took me a little bit to get used to the different taste - you won't have that minty clean feel you get after toothpaste - but now I think I like the taste/feel of it even better than toothpaste - my teeth feel extra clean and my breath feels naturally fresh not like I'm just covering it up with mint flavor. Anyway if you haven't tried this yet I recommend it.

    Health to you and yours -
    Beth
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007
     
    It works as a shampoo

    Just rub a little bit of it into your hair and rinse well with water. It cleanses your hair completely naturally.

    Health to you and yours -
    Beth
    • CommentAuthorMarie
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    I found taking over the counter antacids helps too when I seem to be extremely sensitive to everything.
    • CommentAuthorwt
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007 edited
     
    Baking soda is great tooth polish. - After 1 1/2 years use, I think my mouth and teeth look and feel better than ever without any trips to the dentist.

    Try baking soda in your dishwasher with a cap of bleach.
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2007
     
    I just read about using baking soda to quicken and finish the out-gassing process of carpet (a process by which new carpets let off a variety of gasses that sensitive individuals can react to). Just sprinkle a little sodium bicarbonate on the carpet and let it air out for a little while.

    Health to you and yours -
    Beth
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    Hi All

    My consultant told me that if you can use lemon juice to mix it with the baking soda to clean kitchen units etc and cooker hob (stainless steel) came up a treat. Really just to use instead of household cleaners (if you can tolerate lemon juice). Good on sink and bath too and taps!!
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     
    Hi All

    Just tried taking a spoonful of baking soda in water for the first time. It tastes horrid - probably just cause I am not used to it.

    I am trying it as my stomach is very distended and feels solid to the touch. I look like what I did when I was pregnant and I don't know why as I hardly eat anything at the moment. I can't wait to get my dietician appointment as I am fed up feeling as bloated and uncomfortable as this. I cant fit into any of my clothes and it is getting me down. Hope the baking soda helps - even a little bit.
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     
    Dear Les, I was constantly bloated before I started my low sal diet. This was natural for me. But after starting my elimination diet I could quickly pinpoint the culprit for myself..........milk in combination with wheat. It was'nt the sals causing me the problem directly. But it could be the sals making me a bit lactose and gluten intolerant.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     
    You will know how horrid it is to be so bloated. Like you say about starting the elimination diet I can't wait to get started and hopefully pinpoint what the culprits for me are - I will definitely be happy to get this dietician appointment and it is just a pity I have had to wait so long.

    It will be amazing to actually find out what the problem/s are and eliminate them. It must feel like a miracle..............
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     
    Dear Les, I don't understand why you have to wait to see your nutritionist before you start your elimination diet. You will still be eating healthy foods, just foods low in salicylates. Beth has some wonderful information and links on foods that are low sal. What are you waiting for? You could start feeling better by tommorrow if salicylates are really the problem for you.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     
    I think the problem is more than the salicylates Rita as I cannot have benzoates, MSG and have just been diagnosed as allergic to sodium metabisulphite so I really would be out of my depth without the input of the professionals here. I was trying to do this to the best of my ability but one thing I can have under SS may be not acceptable in one of the other headings. So best for me to wait until apt to make sure I am doing right thing but I am trying to cut out what I can at moment. Thanks for advice.

    p.s. Re: the baking soda - how often is it acceptable to have a teaspoonful in water. Is this just once a day or would this harm you in any way by taking more than one a day. It did help me a bit and my stomach although painful did go down a little bit so it did help
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     
    Teddy -
    I have read that you shouldn't take the baking soda in water more than 3 or 4 times a day for adults and even less for children. I recomend doing it even less often then that as it starts to not work as well after doing it too often. I try not to take it very often at all only when I know that I have eaten something or come into contact with something that I shouldn't have and then I just take it two times a day for a day or two and usually that's fine. Hope this helps.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     
    Hello Beth

    Thanks. I only had one teaspoon yesterday and my stomach went down a little bit so it obviously helped in some way. I would not take it too often as I realise like everything else if you take it to much it does not have the same effect. Just when I am so bloated I will give it a try now and then.

    Yes this did help - thanks Beth
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     
    Les, it's very probable that your allergy to benzoates, msg and metabisulphite have their roots in ss. Benzoates and salicylates are closely related and have almost the same chemical structure. Most people with ss will also have trouble with benzoates. Talking with my dietician, I told her that I react to eggs. She suggested it might be the sulfur contents and I remember reading something about salicylates inhibiting our ability to process sulfer. I bet it's all related.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2007
     
    Thanks Rita. Cant wait to feel a bit healthier and get some energy.
    • CommentAuthorSalmommy
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2007
     
    Hi, all.
    Even though I'm the new person here, I'll jump right in. In case you haven't seen my other posts, this is about my little girl who is sal sensitive. I would like to try the baking soda with her, because I think her system is trying to clean out almost 4 years' worth of salicylates, but I am a little nervous about it. Are there any possible side effects?
    Funny, because she is a healthy size and weight, but she's always had a "tum tum". Possibly just a little kid thing, or possibly the salicylates.
    My second question is this: Would anything be wrong with putting baking soda into empty gelatin capsules and taking it with a glass of water? The poor kid has swallowed more vile remedies in the past year than I ever hope to take. Just wondering if I can spare her the trouble of having to taste the stuff. I have a bag of empty gelatin capsules from my health food store and she can swallow those no problem.
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2007
     
    Salmommy, be careful with gelatin capsules I know some people who are ss have reacted to them, but other than that I'm not sure I can see any problem with it, though I'm not a doctor or scientist and I've never tried doing that, so I can't be sure. Don't give her a lot though and make sure she drinks plenty of water with it and I think it'd be fine. I will say though that it really doesn’t taste that bad if it’s well mixed in water – I mean it’s not great, but really not that bad.
    As for side effects I've never heard or read of any. In fact from what you've told us about her I think giving her a little baking soda could be really helpful - baking soda is alkaline, meaning it works to eliminate salicylic acid by raising the pH level of the urine. From what you said about your daughter having “a very acidic system” taking sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) may help. Again though don’t give her too much or too often as it will lose its effectiveness.
    Also, have you looked at having her eat more alkaline foods and less acidic foods (see http://www.ctds.info/acidic-foods.html for more details)?
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2007
     
    Dear Salmommy, the Drug Facts warning on the box of baking soda says not to administer baking soda to a child under 5 years old. So if your daughter is anywhere around that age, it would be wise to consult your doctor first.
    • CommentAuthorSalmommy
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2007
     
    Thanks, Rita. I will ask my doctor about it first.
    (embarassed that I didn't think of that)
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2007
     
    Salmommy, don't be, we are all here to help one another, 10 heads are better than 1! I knew that because I use the remedy when I have a really bad reaction and I have to read the box to know how much to take.

    Oh Beth, funny you should mention eliminating salicylic acid by raising the pH level of the urine. I did a study on it last night and it was saying that just drinking large amounts of water would raise the pH of the urine! So my water theory is back in business!
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2007
     
    Rita, good on you for reading the warning on the label - they don't put warnings like that on Baking Soda in CZ and even if they did my Czech isn't good enough to know ;)
    Salmommy, like Rita said that's what we're all here for to help eachother - no need to feel embarassed
    Rita, very interesting about the water - I hadn't read anything about it raising pH in urine before - good to know there's one more way to eliminate sals more quickly that doesn't even involve taking anything abnormal :) Thanks for the info.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007 edited
     
    Just wondered if anyone on the fourm could help with this. When at my dental appointment my dentist told me that although it was obviously necessary for me now to brush my teeth with baking soda that it wasnt doing the job as well as my previous method and she noticed that my teeth were lacking in fluoride. She asked to find out from my pharmacist if I could take fluoride tablets and to make sure there were no salicylates, sulphites, benzoates in them first and if not she wants me to take them as a supplement. She also told me since using my soda for brushing my teeth that my teeth are not being cleaned as well as they used to be and there was a build up of plaque happening even although I use the same method of vigourously brusing my teeth. She suggested that I could try Kingfisher toothpase as it is a natural product and I tried previously on an occassion to find out the content of kingfisher toothapste i.e. is there an sals, sulphites, benzoates etc in it. Just because it is a natural product doesnt mean it is okay for me to take it. I emailed them again but no-one seems to reply. She told me of a place in Glasgow Napiers who sell it and if I can get there I will ask them but thought I would ask on the forum if anyone knew anything of this product and the safety of it for me to use what with all my issues. Thanks again. Teddy

    p.s. just noticed the items available on the forum for sale include toothpaste and shampoo would these be suitable for me to use with my sodium metabisulphite etc and if so I will give them a go!
    • CommentAuthorBeth
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    I haven't heard anything about that product - I do have some links to toothpastes that are suppose to be sal free on the sight and I have heard that certain brands of Tom's don't have sal's (not sure if you get Tom's in the Scottland but it's pretty common in the US).
    That's interesting what your dentist said though...as to the flouride - I remember a long time ago reading that flouride has been added to some water so maybe you could look at getting more that way - but, I also remember reading that though it is good for your teeth it isn't really good for your health or at least there are some who say it can have negative results on your health. It has been a while (years) since I read this and I'm not sure how accurate it is or where I read it but you might want to look into flouride before just taking it - it is a chemical...so who knows.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    Hi Beth

    My new found attitude to things now is that if it is a chemical I would prefer in a perfect world not to put it into my body however as I have to take medication daily that is obviously chemicals it sounds a bit hipocritacl but I will check that out with pharmacist and make a judgement based on what they say. We dont get Toms that I know of at all in Scotland but I will ask just in case. I noticed the link after I posted my comment and then added the bit about seeing the toothpastes on the site Beth so I might give that a try. Thanks
    • CommentAuthorwt
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007 edited
     
    Teddy, maybe the plaque was there from before you started using baking soda and you should try giving it to the next appointment . Your elimination diet may also reduce plaque as you change what you eat. Next dental appointment don't tell them about baking soda just see what they have to say first. I think the baking soda can act like plaque but I also understand bacteria doesn't grow on it. You can do a search for baking soda and dental care, see what you find.

    You can do a search for flouride then decide for yourself if you think it is necessary to your health.
    Good luck.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    Thanks again WT. I did myself think the baking soda wasnt working quite so well as my regime before I have had lots of problems with my teeth but I didnt mention it to dentist. So will try and look up some sites and see what I find. Re the flouride I will make a decision once I armed with the facts what is actually is and what is benefit. I am just a bit tired at moment and will check it all out when I feel better. Thanks WT
    • CommentAuthorRita
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    Since, I have changed my diet, I hardly notice any plaque on my teeth, and I used to have tons of it because of all the sugar and corn syrup. I only have to brush my teeth now with water then I add a little baking soda to polish up the front teeth. I have also heard that floride is not beneficial to your overall health.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    Thanks for that Rita. I have always had probs with plaque no matter how well I brush my teeth and used to use a disclosing tablet once a week which obviously I cant use now as full of dye so will just do the best I can with the baking soda and hope for the best. It is annoying as I brush my teeth more than anyone I know and still get plaque - its not fair but as you say once the diet change maybe it will improve.
    • CommentAuthorwt
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    What about using dental floss as well.
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2007
     
    I had always used dental floss before but as no-one could tell me what was in it I have stopped using it for the moment. I am unable to use any mouthwashes due to the sodium metabisulphite and my consultant at hospital had already told me not to use mouthwash when I was diagnosed with sals, benzoates.

    I have just found an interesting article about bicararbonate of soda might be of interest to the forum.

    http://mizar5.com/keyes.html
  1.  
    It looks like the discussion is long past, but I'll add my two cents.

    Since I started my elimination diet five days ago, I've thrown out my Tom's of Maine toothpaste and started using baking soda (and plain, unwaxed floss) instead. Maybe it's just this or maybe it's the elimination diet as a whole, but my mouth feels much better than it did.

    In addition, the old folks in my family who were still using baking soda to brush with also used to use hydrogen peroxide (possibly diluted with water, but I'm not sure) as a mouthwash after brushing. I don't if it would work for people with salicylate sensitivies. I don't even know if it's a good idea for anyone, but it might be something to look into.

    Russ
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeJan 13th 2008
     
    Hi Russ

    I think I will just stick to the bicarbonate of soda - not to sure about using hydrogen peroxide! sounds a bit dangerous!!! Good luck with your elimination diet and hope you find yourself getting better as you go along.

    Take care
    Teddy
    • CommentAuthorTeefee61
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
     
    I've just tried a quarter teaspoon of bicarb of soda, to see if the buzzing in my ears will stop (but I think that's from bananas, which have amines, not salicylates). However, caution is advised. We shouldn't have it with milk and be careful with the dose (too much sodium bicarbonate can cause systemic problems).
    See: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bicarbonate+of+soda
  2.  
    I use soda bicarb to polish my teeth occasionially (have done for years) and now I am allergic to sals I use Kingfisher Fennel toothpaste - which I recommend for cleaning, price and flavour. Well it works for me anyway, as was mentioned earlier - we all have differing sensitivities xx
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2008
     
    Hi Amandahv37

    I use kingfisher fennel too and I love the taste and it leaves such a fresh feeling in your mouth. I used the bicarb of soda before and I felt it left a horrid fishy smell and taste so for me too fennl is good.

    Teddy
    • CommentAuthorlindyd
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2008
     
    Yuck!! I have some Kingfisher Fennel and hate it.. it tastes of licorice! lol
    I just put a tiny bit of sensodyne on the end of my toothbrush and use that and rinse out really well..I realise mint has sals but it has no methyl salicylate and the amount of mint must be tiny...
    Have yet to find another toothpaste I can stand!
    HUGS Lindy xx
  3.  
    TeeFee61 said, "However, caution is advised. We shouldn't have it with milk and be careful with the dose (too much sodium bicarbonate can cause systemic problems)."

    uh-oh, I just drank about 3 Tbs. of baking soda with water.
  4.  
    read this before you take baking soda!

    http://www.walgreens.com/library/contents.html?docid=002749&doctype=1
    • CommentAuthorTEDDY
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2008
     
    Hi Lindy and all

    I used to take sensodyne with my facial pain issues but since realising about sals I have never gone back to it. I cant stand licquorice so I like the fennel although I noticed the new tube isnt quite the same as the last one I had. It doesnt froth up as much but still leaves a fresh taste. Good job we are all Unique in our ways.

    Take care all
    Teddy x